A primary question in LV perform measurement

Which level in ECG is taken as reference for Finish systolic dimension for LV perform evaluation?

Marking the tip diastolic level in ECG is quiet straight ahead. Peak of R wave.(or Q)*

However, what in regards to the reference level for finish systole.

1. Descending slope of T wave
2. Peak of T wave
3. Finish of T wave
4. If T is absent or not clear , I will likely be confused
5. To be lifelike, ECG has no dependable reference level for finish systole.

Reply: If I say the reply is 5, nobody goes to agree. Please notice, the connection between the T wave and the height systolic section in echocardiography is weak. Is there any relation in any respect ? Then, how one can measure LV perform in echocardiography? There’s a electro-mechanical delay in each section and sequence of cardiac contraction and leisure, with former piping the later (electrical energy beats).

Surprisingly (illogically as properly), we take the purpose of most thickness in M-mode as end-systolic, which, in reality, corresponds to peak mechanical systole. This level has no constant relationship with any a part of the T wave. We should understand, the medical cardiac cycle is outlined based mostly on sounds, i.e. S1 and S2, whereas the biomechanical cardiac cycle is completely different. Equally, echocardiographic systole just isn’t the identical as medical systole. 2D echo eliminates this uncertainty to a big extent. This is without doubt one of the causes , we’re suggested and inspired, to not measure LV dimensions in M mode.(A really powerful recommendation to observe although)

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We’re not fully clear but, within the “ECG vs Echo” time correlation of hemodynamic occasions. The errors could also be in solely milli-seconds, nonetheless, when planning for Interventions like re-synchronisations, and within the observe up of DCM sufferers this might matter a lot.

Reference

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